On May 31st Jake said the Ben Lomond update had incorrect topos and descriptions. In 3 months since then he has not provided me with corrections. I assume he's talking about the couple of routes he put up on the Laendler face. There's a reason why we didn't do those lines back in the 80's. We only bothered to do the best looking lines. We must have walked past the Laendler face hundreds of times and dismissed Jake's lines; discontinuous wide cracks up a broken looking face. If you want to climb shitty wide cracks, get the correct descriptions off thesarvo.com