This has all been very amusing. All I was after was Jake's corrections to our Ben guide update. There's a route in the North Esk I put up in 1982 called `Southern Suckers'. Those who responded to this thread ought to go and repeat it. The name says it all.

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  1. Ey G Banger, it is all pretty amusing isn't it :) But I'm confused, I've been climbing for what 4 years now and the only person I've heard rabble about the north vs south thing is you. Maybe you can enlighten me? Is there some old battle I'm missing? Maybe I can be a spy for the north side, I've always wanted to be a spy :)